Anyone else have a company policy change to 100% remote from here on out?

  • 11 February 2021
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Anyone else have a company policy change to 100% remote from here on out?


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Change?


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Meaning no plans to go back into an office


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What's an office 🙈


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sorry...bad late night german jokes


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We moved to 100% remote last March with a small collaborative workspace. Not sure if that will ever change but it’s hard to get up to speed remotely from a developer stand point other than being on zoom all day long.


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We went 100% remote closed 3/4 offices and may come back as collaboration spaces eventually. We did it almost right away last year because leadership wanted people to be able to move wherever was best for their families without worrying about potentially having to move back.


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I think from a business and potential recruiting point, it waaay opens up the pool to awesome talent that would not/could not relocate.


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I am hoping waiting for our parent org to make a decision like this. As SalesForce now owns Slack they really have to embrace a 'work anywhere' mentality.


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We moved 100% remote last year. Now we are settling on a remote friendly environment. Select countries (lookin’ at you US, UK) will be remote only; others will be remote first but office available if/when needed for meetings and collab.


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Also I think @bert.smith has a good take but my own view isn’t so rosy. It gives you access to talent all over, but this is only a benefit if your org can support a remote member. Both from a company and an org standpoint, if you’ve got 99% of a team centralized in one location, or random hires in other places/states/countries, while the rest are still focused in one place, it often leads to a really bad experience for that remote person. The ‘hallway chats’ after a meeting etc. end up happening and they’ve long ended the call.


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It strikes me as being an all-or-nothing or a remote-first, office if you prefer option. The fence sitting is where it falls down from my experience both past and present.


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Agreed. We had remote team members when we were office-mainly, but set up virtual stations for them to be dialed in if they wanted to be part of the group. That seemed to help, but as with any change or friction, communication is the key. Now instead of hall-way conversations you have slack DM conversations that not even normal colleagues could participate in. Have to be very intentional.


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Yeah, it’s a mentality and work style shift, for sure. And the whole org has to commit to it, buy in is super critical. It’s been a bit easier since everyone has been remote over the last year, but it’s still hard to break yourself of the habit of face-to-face or in-person biases.


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The flip side is all-slack-everything is exhausting


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As someone who grew up in online chatrooms it's..nostalgic. "See mom, I told you I could get a job chatting online all day!"


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Ha, fair. Though chat rooms are fun. Slack is a chatroom that can get you fired.


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Also fair! And it doesn't go away easily. But is accountability a bad thing?


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Cuts both ways. Accountability is good, but, it’s really easy for people (especially younger hires) to misunderstand that anything at work is basically a permanent record. And from what I’ve seen, the instant nature of slack leads to a lot of hot-takes and quick fire responses, especially when someone is pissed off or there’s an argument. Add in how people interpret text differently, give it a few sprays of stress for good measure and voila.


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Valid points. That will be the new office hurdle in a remote first world. How will the education system and society adapt to how high school and/or college graduates will be on boarded in those settings. The dialogue during the onboarding process will be need to be very clear as well as communication policies. It’s been stressed for years to be careful what you say online and via social media. Now it has career-level reprocussions, not just social.


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Yeah, we run an entire slide that literally says “Slack is a work chat tool. What you say in there can get you fired, so treat others with respect, and assume if it’s open to interpretation, you shouldn’t type it.”


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To that effect, anyway. I made it sound way cooler, but basically, work chat that gets you fired, don’t say dumb shit or do dumb shit and you’ll be fine. Also don’t use @ channel or @ here until you damn well know what you’re doing, or you will be killed instantly.”


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Wow

basically, work chat that gets you fired, don’t say dumb shit or do dumb shit and you’ll be fine. Also don’t use @ channel or @ here until you damn well know what you’re doing, or you will be killed instantly.


truer words have never been written 😂


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Yah that was a mic drop for sure. 5aba0fc2870e36c0.gifgoes back to finding a sad kitten filter to use for his next zoom meeting.


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Coming from the younger crowd, I’m pretty sure most of us assume that everything we do is being recorded and could be used against us at any time. I actually feel like the larger gap is knowledge of what exactly could get you fired. (Because laws change literally state to state and also are weirdly backwards sometimes, not to mention company policies that are perfectly legal despite being a bit crazy.) Like, I say stuff that I’m not sorry for and I’m well aware could be used against me. But I find a lot of org norms to be wildly outdated. Like discussing compensation with peers, for example, can get you fired at some companies. Seemed absurd to me, until I got warned about it.


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